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Mark Palmer
That's pretty much where I am - will give it one more try once the docs improve otherwise I'm going to win the lottery and retire instead.

I like what I've seen so far, but the docs, when I last looked before Xmas, made it all very laborious.

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> As for Lasso 9. I really want to deploy a new product I am developing using 9, but there are still gaping holes in documentation and code examples. I have tried several times to install and get going, but there is always something that stops me. I know that the list is here for that, but I like to tinker on my own time.


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Re: stuck email queue - seeking automated lasso restart

Mark Palmer
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+1

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> Save a dead horse: release a public issue tracker!



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Re: stuck email queue - seeking automated lasso restart

Marc Vos
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Hi,

The last month I went over to Lasso 9 - you've all seen my emails, and I have some more sent to LS (I'm at 'take 20' already), but it all works. The issues I had, I resolved by writing custom tags for L8 and L9 so I can keep on using my code in both.

One thing that you really need to implement is some kind of logging system where you write 'error_stack' (it's a L9 tag) which will show you what happened where. Together with protect and handle_error, it helped me a lot to track issues. The fear I had about the 'reference'-problem is gone, really 95% my L8 code worked as is.

The only thing I do not like is that when a web page is started for the very first time, I have to wait 2 to 3 seconds, because it needs to be compiled.
But that long time can be related to my dev machine (3.06 GHz iMac from 2010 with M4 SSD as bootdisk).

Another thing I am currently seeing is that each single web app takes up between 20MB and 40MB of RAM. So after starting 10 different web apps, LassoServer is already at 200MB (base) + 10x approx.30MB=500MB. But maybe that is normal, I don't know yet.

[Mac OS 10.8.3, L9.2.5]

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> That's pretty much where I am - will give it one more try once the docs improve otherwise I'm going to win the lottery and retire instead.
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> I like what I've seen so far, but the docs, when I last looked before Xmas, made it all very laborious.
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> On 18 Mar 2013, at 21:05, Mason Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> As for Lasso 9. I really want to deploy a new product I am developing using 9, but there are still gaping holes in documentation and code examples. I have tried several times to install and get going, but there is always something that stops me. I know that the list is here for that, but I like to tinker on my own time.
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Re: stuck email queue - seeking automated lasso restart

Lars A. Gundersen-2
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I appreciate the in-chiming by Sean, it's the right thing to do.

I'd like to raise a few issues, however:

- In my experience, a ticler will not help. The DNS deafness strikes for me when stressing the box with many outgoing emails, and i would assume that's why you have problems tackling it, because it's difficult to test in a lab setting.

- The problem is not with the Email queue or the email tags per se, but any kind of sending, including with the SMTP tags. Alas.

- The reason I (and others I'm sure) don't just use the localhost-sending or other fire-and-forget options is that, is that I absolutely positively need a correct status back from the sending attempt. Otherwise, how can I do a live status update like the one in the demo video for Beetrieve?:
http://www.beetrieve.com/public/resources/en/Beetrieve_parts_quick.mp4
The emails' status indicators, as far as successfully delieverd/failed are concerned, are directly tied to the result from the SMTP->Send commands.

- I didn't know about the Mandrill tags, that looks intruiging. I couldn't see anything about what they report back and how. Can I get an error message for bounced emails back, like the SMTP->Send tags do?

- I want to use L9, I do, and I have payed for it. But I need a migration guide so I can get a clear picture of what kind of work I'll have to to migrate my webapp. It's nice to know L9 now is more mature and in a good place, but I just need documentation.

L

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Re: stuck email queue - seeking automated lasso restart

Jonathan Guthrie-3
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Steve, the horse is well and truly flogged - so save some electrons.
It's coming and you know that it is, it's just in the queue of things to make happen.

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> Save a dead horse: release a public issue tracker!
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Re: stuck email queue - seeking automated lasso restart

stevepiercy
Wow.

--steve


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> Steve, the horse is well and truly flogged - so save some electrons.
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> > Save a dead horse: release a public issue tracker!
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> > --steve
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