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Doug Gentry-2
I can't believe I'm worrying about sales tax rates as we're enjoying gorgeous spring weather in Southern Oregon and I'm celebrating my uneventful release from the hospital after chemo, but….

With the news on the U.S. radio this morning about the likely passage of a bill allowing states to charge sales tax for out of state online vendors:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/technology/internet-sales-tax-gains-ground-in-senate.html?_r=0

I'm wondering how you all will handle this in ecommerce solutions.  Perhaps there are already public domain tables of sales tax rates, and maybe these will be enhanced to show whether the state is choosing to collect those taxes.

…Doug Gentry


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Re: Sales Tax

Brad Lindsay
On 5/6/13 10:10 AM, Doug Gentry wrote:
> I can't believe I'm worrying about sales tax rates as we're enjoying gorgeous spring weather in Southern Oregon and I'm celebrating my uneventful release from the hospital after chemo, but….
>
> With the news on the U.S. radio this morning about the likely passage of a bill allowing states to charge sales tax for out of state online vendors:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/technology/internet-sales-tax-gains-ground-in-senate.html?_r=0
>
> I'm wondering how you all will handle this in ecommerce solutions.  Perhaps there are already public domain tables of sales tax rates, and maybe these will be enhanced to show whether the state is choosing to collect those taxes.

Thanks for the heads up. I'd hope that the payment processor would have
tools to take this into account. The article says, "Online retailers
with out-of-state sales of less than $1 million a year would be exempt."
Do you know if I need to be worried about any of your clients with that
much out-of-state sales?

Brad

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Re: Sales Tax

Carl Ketterling
I'm eager to hear opinions on this as well.

The article does state that ³State governments would be required to provide
software free to Internet retailers to calculate sales taxes.²  Maybe that
makes all of our jobs a bit easier.

Carl

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> On 5/6/13 10:10 AM, Doug Gentry wrote:
>> I can't believe I'm worrying about sales tax rates as we're enjoying gorgeous
>> spring weather in Southern Oregon and I'm celebrating my uneventful release
>> from the hospital after chemo, butŠ.
>>
>> With the news on the U.S. radio this morning about the likely passage of a
>> bill allowing states to charge sales tax for out of state online vendors:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/technology/internet-sales-tax-gains-ground-
>> in-senate.html?_r=0
>>
>> I'm wondering how you all will handle this in ecommerce solutions.  Perhaps
>> there are already public domain tables of sales tax rates, and maybe these
>> will be enhanced to show whether the state is choosing to collect those
>> taxes.
>
> Thanks for the heads up. I'd hope that the payment processor would have
> tools to take this into account. The article says, "Online retailers
> with out-of-state sales of less than $1 million a year would be exempt."
> Do you know if I need to be worried about any of your clients with that
> much out-of-state sales?
>
> Brad
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Re: Sales Tax

Marc Pope-2
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In nc if the out of state vendor doesn't charge us tax we are supposed to pay it on our state taxes. It's a mess

On May 6, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Doug Gentry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can't believe I'm worrying about sales tax rates as we're enjoying gorgeous spring weather in Southern Oregon and I'm celebrating my uneventful release from the hospital after chemo, but….
>
> With the news on the U.S. radio this morning about the likely passage of a bill allowing states to charge sales tax for out of state online vendors:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/technology/internet-sales-tax-gains-ground-in-senate.html?_r=0
>
> I'm wondering how you all will handle this in ecommerce solutions.  Perhaps there are already public domain tables of sales tax rates, and maybe these will be enhanced to show whether the state is choosing to collect those taxes.
>
> …Doug Gentry
>
>
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Re: Sales Tax

fletcher sandbeck-2
On May 6, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Marc Pope <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In nc if the out of state vendor doesn't charge us tax we are supposed to pay it on our state taxes. It's a mess

That's the way it is in Washington as well.  People don't pay attention to it in general, but as a business I make it a policy to buy from retailers who do charge sales tax.

I handled the backend for our web sales during a transition in Washington from a blanket sales tax to a destination based sales tax.  Rather than simply detecting the state WA, we now had to find the effective sales tax for each address and then report that on our monthly tax return.  We ultimately used a system where we downloaded a quarterly CSV update with zip+4 mapping to sales tax rate, used that for the lookups in the online store, and then generated a CSV output so we could report taxes to the state.

I wrote a tip of the week about it, "Destination-Based Sales Tax" on June 20, 2008, but I can't figure out if those live online anymore.

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Re: Sales Tax

Brad Lindsay
On 5/6/13 1:26 PM, Fletcher Sandbeck wrote:
> On May 6, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Marc Pope<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> In nc if the out of state vendor doesn't charge us tax we are supposed to pay it on our state taxes. It's a mess
>
> That's the way it is in Washington as well.  People don't pay attention to it in general, but as a business I make it a policy to buy from retailers who do charge sales tax.
>
> I handled the backend for our web sales during a transition in Washington from a blanket sales tax to a destination based sales tax.  Rather than simply detecting the state WA, we now had to find the effective sales tax for each address and then report that on our monthly tax return.  We ultimately used a system where we downloaded a quarterly CSV update with zip+4 mapping to sales tax rate, used that for the lookups in the online store, and then generated a CSV output so we could report taxes to the state.
>
> I wrote a tip of the week about it, "Destination-Based Sales Tax" on June 20, 2008, but I can't figure out if those live online anymore.

http://www.lassosoft.com/Destination-Based-Sales-Tax

Brad

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Re: Sales Tax

Trevor Borgmeier
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on 5/6/13 12:26 PM Fletcher Sandbeck wrote:

> On May 6, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Marc Pope <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> In nc if the out of state vendor doesn't charge us tax we are supposed to pay it on our state taxes. It's a mess
> That's the way it is in Washington as well.  People don't pay attention to it in general, but as a business I make it a policy to buy from retailers who do charge sales tax.
>
> I handled the backend for our web sales during a transition in Washington from a blanket sales tax to a destination based sales tax.  Rather than simply detecting the state WA, we now had to find the effective sales tax for each address and then report that on our monthly tax return.  We ultimately used a system where we downloaded a quarterly CSV update with zip+4 mapping to sales tax rate, used that for the lookups in the online store, and then generated a CSV output so we could report taxes to the state.
>
> I wrote a tip of the week about it, "Destination-Based Sales Tax" on June 20, 2008, but I can't figure out if those live online anymore.
>
> [fletcher]

If you're getting rates based on zip+4, aren't you getting the rates
beyond just the state level — for the specific region/city as well?

-Trevor



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Re: Sales Tax

fletcher sandbeck-2
On May 6, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Trevor Borgmeier <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If you're getting rates based on zip+4, aren't you getting the rates beyond just the state level — for the specific region/city as well?

Yeah, that was the irritating change they made here in Washington.  Previously it was source based so if I sold something from my office I'd use my local sales tax: 8.6%.  After the change to destination based sales tax I'd have to look up the address to find their local sales tax, from 7.6% for rural Washington to 9.5% in the cities.  Under the rules we were considered a mail order retailer.  Physical stores still use their local sales tax.

The devil will be in the details of how the sales tax is implemented, but it couldn't be any worse than what we implemented for Washington unless the reporting side is particularly onerous.

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