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Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Juan M. Quiroz
I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.

I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.

I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.

But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.

The arguments are:

1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.


I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.


Thanks in advance!

Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
Oregon Department of Agriculture
DBA/Systems Analyst
503-986-4607


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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Kevin Bice
I am going to move to a PHP framework after deciding the amount of work was not much different than moving code from 8.6 to 9.3, Lassosoft seems to be MIA, and it will give me much more flexibility going forward in terms of OS, et cetera.

I have used Lasso since 1.0, loved it all these years, but I think it might be time to move on.
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> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>
> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>
> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>
> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>
> The arguments are:
>
> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>
>
> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
> Oregon Department of Agriculture
> DBA/Systems Analyst
> 503-986-4607
>
>
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Tim Taplin
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Hope this finds you in time for your meeting.


> On Oct 30, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>
Unfortunately your experience with official Lasso support has become the norm.
> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>
> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
I agree enthusiastically. I have never found any other language that is as easy to build full solutions in. Often lasso developers are able to produce solutions much faster than others.
>
> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>
> The arguments are:
>
> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.

Point 1 is well taken, because lasso has remained a paid platform, it has not gained the widespread support and usage that “free” software has.

I can’t make any solid arguments against point 2, although there is a scenario where the codebase could become open if the parent company decides to drop it.

Regarding point 3, you will find that much of your code will run on 9.3 with little modification. Lasso9 style code can be introduced as you maintain, and you will find that the entire codebase will run more efficiently.

Ease of use, stability, and security are significant reasons to continue using lasso in either 8.6 or 9.3 versions, with performance and more support for current operating systems being the primary reasons to move to 9.3.

If your team decides to move away from lasso and plan to take a more api based approach to your code, you may wish to look into Server Side Swift, especially using the Perfect framework.

One of the reasons that the Lasso team is not doing much with lasso, is that they are all working on Perfect.

In my experience, when clients or teams have decided to move to other languages because they thought the move to lasso9 was too daunting, they have experienced many frustrations and issues, with lengthy timelines to getting things done which are simple in Lasso.

Best of luck with whichever path you take.

Tim Taplin
Consulting Developer

>
>
> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
> Oregon Department of Agriculture
> DBA/Systems Analyst
> 503-986-4607
>
>
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Kevin Bice
In reply to this post by Juan M. Quiroz
PS - the response time to this list seems to get longer and longer too.

Not Lassosoft long but not what it used to be.
……………...
Kevin Bice
512.879.1653
www.lassospace.com




> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>
> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>
> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>
> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>
> The arguments are:
>
> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>
>
> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
> Oregon Department of Agriculture
> DBA/Systems Analyst
> 503-986-4607
>
>
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Bill Yung
Vaya con dios, my darling.

Bill Yung
Boss of Me
IP Tech Devices
Rancho Santa Fe, CA
(859) 240-1024



> On Oct 30, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Kevin Bice <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> PS - the response time to this list seems to get longer and longer too.
>
> Not Lassosoft long but not what it used to be.
> ……………...
> Kevin Bice
> 512.879.1653
> www.lassospace.com
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>>
>> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>>
>> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>>
>> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>>
>> The arguments are:
>>
>> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
>> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
>> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>>
>>
>> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
>> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
>> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
>> Oregon Department of Agriculture
>> DBA/Systems Analyst
>> 503-986-4607
>>
>>
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Kevin Bice
Not sure how to take that, but I am sure that others are already there or on their way. It truly saddens me to say these things.

Auf wiedersehen.
……………...
Kevin Bice
512.879.1653
www.lassospace.com




> On Oct 30, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Bill Yung <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Vaya con dios, my darling.
>
> Bill Yung
> Boss of Me
> IP Tech Devices
> Rancho Santa Fe, CA
> (859) 240-1024
>
>
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Kevin Bice <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> PS - the response time to this list seems to get longer and longer too.
>>
>> Not Lassosoft long but not what it used to be.
>> ……………...
>> Kevin Bice
>> 512.879.1653
>> www.lassospace.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>>>
>>> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>>>
>>> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>>>
>>> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>>>
>>> The arguments are:
>>>
>>> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
>>> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
>>> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
>>> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
>>> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
>>> Oregon Department of Agriculture
>>> DBA/Systems Analyst
>>> 503-986-4607
>>>
>>>
>>> #############################################################
>>>
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Bill Yung
Well played, monsieur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKfpB7KiueU

Bill Yung
Boss of Me
IP Tech Devices
Rancho Santa Fe, CA
(859) 240-1024



> On Oct 30, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kevin Bice <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Not sure how to take that, but I am sure that others are already there or on their way. It truly saddens me to say these things.
>
> Auf wiedersehen.
> ……………...
> Kevin Bice
> 512.879.1653
> www.lassospace.com
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Bill Yung <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Vaya con dios, my darling.
>>
>> Bill Yung
>> Boss of Me
>> IP Tech Devices
>> Rancho Santa Fe, CA
>> (859) 240-1024
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Kevin Bice <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> PS - the response time to this list seems to get longer and longer too.
>>>
>>> Not Lassosoft long but not what it used to be.
>>> ……………...
>>> Kevin Bice
>>> 512.879.1653
>>> www.lassospace.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>>>>
>>>> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>>>>
>>>> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>>>>
>>>> The arguments are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
>>>> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
>>>> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
>>>> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
>>>> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
>>>> Oregon Department of Agriculture
>>>> DBA/Systems Analyst
>>>> 503-986-4607
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> #############################################################
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Marc Vos-3
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Hi Juan,

I moved to PHP last year. Lasso to PHP is not that difficult.
The move to Javascript is something completely different.

If you are using Javascript only client-side, you might keep on using Lasso server-side.
But if you are moving to node.js or similar, then you are abandoning any server-side scripting language, even PHP. Then your question and the decision about keeping Lasso is totally irrelevant.

- -
Regards,
Marc Vos



> On 30 Oct 2018, at 22:44, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>
> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>
> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>
> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>
> The arguments are:
>
> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>
>
> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
> Oregon Department of Agriculture
> DBA/Systems Analyst
> 503-986-4607
>
>
> #############################################################
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Juan M. Quiroz
In reply to this post by Tim Taplin
I want to thank everyone for all the comments and I take from Tim Taplin that moving from 8.6 to 9.3 might not be a big deal.

That will give us time to decide where we will be going in the near future.

By the way the main reason the push the move is because 8.6 cannot be installed in newer Apple OS.

I really liked Lasso, it is awesome!
Too bad the company is going in a different direction.
 It was a good run!

Thanks everyone!


juan


> On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Tim Taplin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hope this finds you in time for your meeting.
>
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>>
> Unfortunately your experience with official Lasso support has become the norm.
>> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>>
>> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
> I agree enthusiastically. I have never found any other language that is as easy to build full solutions in. Often lasso developers are able to produce solutions much faster than others.
>>
>> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>>
>> The arguments are:
>>
>> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
>> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
>> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>
> Point 1 is well taken, because lasso has remained a paid platform, it has not gained the widespread support and usage that “free” software has.
>
> I can’t make any solid arguments against point 2, although there is a scenario where the codebase could become open if the parent company decides to drop it.
>
> Regarding point 3, you will find that much of your code will run on 9.3 with little modification. Lasso9 style code can be introduced as you maintain, and you will find that the entire codebase will run more efficiently.
>
> Ease of use, stability, and security are significant reasons to continue using lasso in either 8.6 or 9.3 versions, with performance and more support for current operating systems being the primary reasons to move to 9.3.
>
> If your team decides to move away from lasso and plan to take a more api based approach to your code, you may wish to look into Server Side Swift, especially using the Perfect framework.
>
> One of the reasons that the Lasso team is not doing much with lasso, is that they are all working on Perfect.
>
> In my experience, when clients or teams have decided to move to other languages because they thought the move to lasso9 was too daunting, they have experienced many frustrations and issues, with lengthy timelines to getting things done which are simple in Lasso.
>
> Best of luck with whichever path you take.
>
> Tim Taplin
> Consulting Developer
>>
>>
>> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
>> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
>> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
>> Oregon Department of Agriculture
>> DBA/Systems Analyst
>> 503-986-4607
>>
>>
>> #############################################################
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Jolle Carlestam-2
I take it I’m too late for the party. Damn those time zones.

In any case. Lassosoft, the company, is not much use these days. They have internally decided that Lasso is not the future. Albeit they’ve never communicated that in any official way. Their parent/sister company still internally maintain a large codebase in Lasso. And still allocate (some) resources to fix bugs or making sure Lasso works in new OSes.

That said, Lasso as a language is just as good today as it was a couple of years ago. My company uses it, our clients use it and I have heard of no plans to move to another language. It serves us well. In my own projects however it has taken a slightly different role. Using frameworks like Angular (7) or RiotJS, Lasso is downgraded to be just a data shuffler. I spend most of my time focused on the client side code and Lasso has no part in serving any of that. It’s role is to receive requests for data, process these requests in dialog with our databases and send the results back, as JSON. Any request for standard web files, css, js, html, etc is all handled without the participation of Lasso. On average I think I spend about 80-90% of my development time on the client side code and the rest on Lasso or DB queries.

This shift makes it easier for me to exchange Lasso with another backend should it become necessary. Not that I see that happening in the foreseeable future. Lasso serves us well.

HDB
Jolle

pst, when I say Lasso I mean Lasso 9(.3). We moved away from Lasso 8 a long time ago

> 31 okt. 2018 kl. 02:21 skrev Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]>:
>
> I want to thank everyone for all the comments and I take from Tim Taplin that moving from 8.6 to 9.3 might not be a big deal.
>
> That will give us time to decide where we will be going in the near future.
>
> By the way the main reason the push the move is because 8.6 cannot be installed in newer Apple OS.
>
> I really liked Lasso, it is awesome!
> Too bad the company is going in a different direction.
> It was a good run!
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
>
> juan
>
>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Tim Taplin <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Hope this finds you in time for your meeting.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Juan M. Quiroz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I sent this question to lasso support but nobody answered there.
>>>
>> Unfortunately your experience with official Lasso support has become the norm.
>>> I'm giving the group a try to see if there is help.
>>>
>>> I like Lasso as a scripting language. I find it super easy and very good.
>> I agree enthusiastically. I have never found any other language that is as easy to build full solutions in. Often lasso developers are able to produce solutions much faster than others.
>>>
>>> But in at my work there is movement to abandon lasso to move web pages (static and dynamic) development to javascript.
>>>
>>> The arguments are:
>>>
>>> 1. Lasso is an unknown scripting language.
>>> 2. Lasso is for sure going to die in the near future.
>>> 3. The move to 9.3 is too much and do we want to spend the time based on 1 and 2 above. <<-- Comment made by someone with very little lasso knowledge.
>>
>> Point 1 is well taken, because lasso has remained a paid platform, it has not gained the widespread support and usage that “free” software has.
>>
>> I can’t make any solid arguments against point 2, although there is a scenario where the codebase could become open if the parent company decides to drop it.
>>
>> Regarding point 3, you will find that much of your code will run on 9.3 with little modification. Lasso9 style code can be introduced as you maintain, and you will find that the entire codebase will run more efficiently.
>>
>> Ease of use, stability, and security are significant reasons to continue using lasso in either 8.6 or 9.3 versions, with performance and more support for current operating systems being the primary reasons to move to 9.3.
>>
>> If your team decides to move away from lasso and plan to take a more api based approach to your code, you may wish to look into Server Side Swift, especially using the Perfect framework.
>>
>> One of the reasons that the Lasso team is not doing much with lasso, is that they are all working on Perfect.
>>
>> In my experience, when clients or teams have decided to move to other languages because they thought the move to lasso9 was too daunting, they have experienced many frustrations and issues, with lengthy timelines to getting things done which are simple in Lasso.
>>
>> Best of luck with whichever path you take.
>>
>> Tim Taplin
>> Consulting Developer
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a meeting in 15 minutes where we are going to make a decision.
>>> I was hoping lasso support would have answered after almost a week.
>>> But, I was busy with thing and until now I just thought of posting to this group to see if there is any help, suggestions or ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Juan M. Quiroz               [hidden email]
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Re: Question: What Does It Take To Move From 8.6 to 9.3

Mark Palmer
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Hi,

> By the way the main reason the push the move is because 8.6 cannot be
> installed in newer Apple OS.

I have Lasso 8.6.3 on Mac OS, in fact just updated to Mac OS 10.14.1
released last night and it seems to be running fine although I don’t
use it in combat anymore.

There are instruction knocking about on the list for where to get, and
how to install, the appropriate apache connector and also how to work
around Apples SIP (System Integrity Protection)

On 31 Oct 2018, at 1:21, Juan M. Quiroz wrote:

> By the way the main reason the push the move is because 8.6 cannot be
> installed in newer Apple OS.

Regards

Mark Palmer
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