Pricing, part II

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Re: Pricing, part II

Kyle Jessup-2
On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Deco Rior wrote:

> I think the change in Lasso 9 may have made this an issue now. The first time processes are run they have to be compiled, byte-cached, etc.. Originally, I thought this would not be an issue since I would just create multiple instances to effectively run customers somewhat separate, but with the full access to all the CPU resources. But now that is not feasible.

Huh? I have no idea where you are coming from with this.
-Kyle

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> On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:22 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
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>>> Also note that if all customers are running under a single instance, then if one customer has a sudden spike in traffic or similar issues, it will impact all of your customers.  And having to restart Lasso for one customer means restarting Lasso for all customers (rather than just a single instance).
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>> Does no one run lasso in HA installations?   Shocking...   We restart
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Re: Pricing, part II

fletcher sandbeck-2
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On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:22 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

>> Also note that if all customers are running under a single instance, then if one customer has a sudden spike in traffic or similar issues, it will impact all of your customers.  And having to restart Lasso for one customer means restarting Lasso for all customers (rather than just a single instance).
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> Does no one run lasso in HA installations?   Shocking...   We restart
> servers all the time with zero negative impact on our customers.

We run most servers behind a load balancer.  It isn't quite HA, but we can move servers around and restart servers without impacting site visitors.

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Re: Pricing, part II

stevepiercy
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On 3/22/11 at 9:46 AM, [hidden email] (Erik Vandermey -
WebCentrix, Inc.) pronounced:

>On Mar 22, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Bil Corry wrote:
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>>Also note that if all customers are running under a single instance, then if one
>customer has a sudden spike in traffic or similar issues, it
>will impact all of your customers.  And having to restart Lasso
>for one customer means restarting Lasso for all customers
>(rather than just a single instance).
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>>- Bil
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>Additionally, any security settings you make for one customer
>become the same for other customers in a single instance
>scenario. I certainly don't want to give everyone full access
>to the Lasso tagset just because one customer requests/needs it.

So don't use Lasso's security settings.

I wish I knew then what I know now about Lasso security and just
never used Lasso sites.

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Re: Pricing, part II

Bil Corry-3
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Brad Lindsay wrote on 3/22/2011 7:48 AM:
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Bil Corry wrote:
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>> Also note that if all customers are running under a single
>> instance, then if one customer has a sudden spike in traffic or
>> similar issues, it will impact all of your customers.
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> This is true even if they each had separate instances. (At lest for a
> traffic spike. I'm assuming that similar issues would have to do with
> consuming resources, so it would be true for them as well.)

I was thinking of a shared session table vs. individual session tables, or shared email queue vs. individual email queues.  It's easy for one customer to screw it up for the rest.


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Re: Pricing, part II

Bil Corry-3
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[hidden email] wrote on 3/22/2011 8:22 AM:
>> Also note that if all customers are running under a single instance, then if one customer has a sudden spike in traffic or similar issues, it will impact all of your customers.  And having to restart Lasso for one customer means restarting Lasso for all customers (rather than just a single instance).
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> Does no one run lasso in HA installations?   Shocking...   We restart
> servers all the time with zero negative impact on our customers.

Is it common for shared hosting providers to supply their customers with a HA cluster?  The scenario I was referencing was a single box and a single Lasso instance being shared by multiple customers.  Perhaps it's a bad example and all the Lasso hosting providers using HA clusters, I don't know.  But I think you get my point, it was just an example, even if a poor one.


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