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Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Sean Stephens-2
Lassoers

Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.

I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.

I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.

I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.

What else are you using it for?

Sean Stephens
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Tom Parker-16
Non-web browser uses of Lasso:

--We use Lasso to capture inputs into an Interactive Voice Response
(IVR) system and store them in a MySQL database (data can also be
viewed in a browser).  Lasso handles the incoming calls--validating
and identifying the caller, and also triggers outgoing calls using
events.  Application is for chronic disease patients who prefer to
enter vital signs via phone vs. browser; many of these people have no
access to computers but do have cell phones.
--Generate monthly pdf reports that integrate charts made with ChartFX
and auto-fax these to doctors and specialists again for chronic
disease patients.  This uses Lasso Events also, so it is fully
automated.
--Anything that needs a quick program in the office such as cleaning
up or re-organizing large data sets.

--Tom Parker

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> Lassoers
>
> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.
>
> I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.
>
> I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.
>
> What else are you using it for?
>
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Brad Lindsay-2
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Prior to Lasso 9:

- Backup of MySQL databases


Since Lasso 9:

- Backup & restore of MySQL database

- Parsing of CSV files to do some basic error checking and then upload the data into MySQL

- The occasional one-off script that needs to do some complex database updates.

- My new lspec test tool is completely written in 9 and runs from the command-line.


Brad


On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

> Lassoers
>
> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.
>
> I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.
>
> I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.
>
> What else are you using it for?
>
> Sean Stephens
> CEO
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

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On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

>Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.

--In our commercial software product Grahpics Finder, hooking
into various image and video manipulation utilities
(ImageMagick, GhostScript, ffmpeg, UFRaw, EXIFTool, Stuffit) to
manipulate and extract information from all types of files.

--Slicing and dicing complicated .CSV files, creating output
files, then uploading the result into a database.

--Running maintenance routines to manage logfiles.


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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

fletcher sandbeck-2
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I use Lasso all the time as a scratchpad calculator to figure things out.  Generally running quick scripts in a test.lasso file.

Most of my work is web-related, but Lasso certainly does a lot of different jobs on our sites.  It generates thumbnails and different sized photos.  It renders pages to .html so they can be served quickly, but regenerated automatically when comments arrive.  It uses scp to synch rendered pages between multiple servers.  It generates email newsletters.  It checks an email account and automatically adds messages to a queue for our customer service people.

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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Marc Pinnell-3
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When not creating websites... I use Lasso to create InDesign tagged text files for creation of membership directories for print production. I also use it for a fantasy football draft, but I guess that is a web page.... :)

Marc

On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

> Lassoers
>
> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.
>
> I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.
>
> I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.
>
> What else are you using it for?
>
> Sean Stephens
> CEO
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Kyle Jessup-2
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I use Lasso 9 automated from the command line to help generate CentOS installers for Lasso 9 :)
-Kyle

On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

> Lassoers
>
> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.
>
> I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.
>
> I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.
>
> What else are you using it for?
>
> Sean Stephens
> CEO
> LassoSoft Inc.
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

fletcher sandbeck-2
On Aug 29, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Kyle Jessup wrote:

> I use Lasso 9 automated from the command line to help generate CentOS installers for Lasso 9 :)

Just don't let it become self-aware or we'll have that whole terminator problem to deal with.

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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Mark Palmer
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And on August 29th 2011 Lasso 9 became sentient.

On 29 Aug 2011, at 16:37, Kyle Jessup wrote:

> I use Lasso 9 automated from the command line to help generate CentOS installers for Lasso 9 :)
> -Kyle



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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Marc Vos
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Well, I do a lot of batch processing with Lasso8. I use it as an interface to pass data to and from various types of databases from and to various servers, send / import files pur FTP, auto-creation of PDF's on a timely basis, 12 batch programs to cleanup and move data from production to history, a heartbeat that monitors other systems, ...

I could write these in bash or as  realstudio console apps, and I really gave it some thought, but I find the Lasso8 event scheduler so much easier to deploy and maintain.

- -
Marc

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> Lassoers
>
> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> I, for one, use it for scrubbing. A little regex, a datasource and some Lasso and you can grab almost anything you want from the web. I grab MRTG graphs, feeds, borrow everything from house listings to addresses (all legitimate, of course) etc. and use Lasso to present it elsewhere.
>
> I also (in the past) used it for connecting to X-10 controllers and turning lights on and off in my house and business from a website.
>
> I currently use it on my computer for basic scripting and cleanup of a CSV dynamically, where BBEdit is harder to manage multiple versions of one file.
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> What else are you using it for?
>
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Tami Williams
I've used Lasso to:

1. copy all data from a Lasso7MySQL database (all tables) to MySQL 5

2. copy data from a set FileMaker databases, all tables with a certain  
prefix to a specific MySQL database, specific tables

3. create form input statements and form input hidden statements and  
table cell field outputs and inline -ReturnField statements for all  
the fields in a table in a database (then view source and copy to get  
the form input statements for my real form instead of writing them all  
manually)

4. Lasso Reference - Utility to test regular expressions

5. Scheduled scripts to generate and email site admins nightly  
database activity reports

6. create test.lasso files to figure things out

7. create static htmls for records in a database



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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Jolle Carlestam-3
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29 aug 2011 kl. 03.14 skrev Sean Stephens:

> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.

We use Lasso 9 for building knop code pages. Choose a database, choose a table; a form with all fields will present itself. A suggested name is pre created using abbreviations on the actual field name. If a field is selected to be part of the form to be, ajax fetches relevant choices for the field based on what type is chosen, text, radio, checkbox etc. When all choices is made there are three export options. A config file, content file and a file with all language snippets from the label params that are not already in the language object. The files will be complete with all needed additional code and named after the naming standard we use for knop files.

Makes creation of new forms way faster than before.

Similar setup is available for creating list views. This time you choose if the fields should be displayed and in what order. And other relevant params.

HDB
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Bil Corry-3
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Tom Parker wrote on 8/28/2011 8:47 PM:

> Non-web browser uses of Lasso:
>
> --We use Lasso to capture inputs into an Interactive Voice Response
> (IVR) system and store them in a MySQL database (data can also be
> viewed in a browser).  Lasso handles the incoming calls--validating
> and identifying the caller, and also triggers outgoing calls using
> events.  Application is for chronic disease patients who prefer to
> enter vital signs via phone vs. browser; many of these people have no
> access to computers but do have cell phones.
> --Generate monthly pdf reports that integrate charts made with ChartFX
> and auto-fax these to doctors and specialists again for chronic
> disease patients.  This uses Lasso Events also, so it is fully
> automated.
> --Anything that needs a quick program in the office such as cleaning
> up or re-organizing large data sets.

Crazy, I've done the exact same things!  IVR is fun.


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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Jolle Carlestam-3
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30 aug 2011 kl. 06.08 skrev Jolle Carlestam:

> 29 aug 2011 kl. 03.14 skrev Sean Stephens:
>
>> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>
> We use Lasso 9 for building knop code pages.

Come to think of it we have more knop related functions that Lasso help us deal with. Lasso also aids in handling language strings. Instead of editing maps in a lasso code page we have a Knop based list/form section for that. Add a language string in the relevant languages and several things will happen. It will of course add records to the globally accessible language table for each language the string is submitted in. But also recreate the language object used in the site. And save a fallback file with all language snippets in case the language table should be unavailable, for example in off-site sites.
Makes editing and adding of language snippets a breeze compared to when it was manual editing on maps.

This is also Lasso 9.

HDB
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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Johan Solve
So Knop is the real Swiss Army Knife here. ;)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Jolle Carlestam
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> 30 aug 2011 kl. 06.08 skrev Jolle Carlestam:
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>> 29 aug 2011 kl. 03.14 skrev Sean Stephens:
>>
>>> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>>
>> We use Lasso 9 for building knop code pages.
>
> Come to think of it we have more knop related functions that Lasso help us deal with. Lasso also aids in handling language strings. Instead of editing maps in a lasso code page we have a Knop based list/form section for that. Add a language string in the relevant languages and several things will happen. It will of course add records to the globally accessible language table for each language the string is submitted in. But also recreate the language object used in the site. And save a fallback file with all language snippets in case the language table should be unavailable, for example in off-site sites.
> Makes editing and adding of language snippets a breeze compared to when it was manual editing on maps.
>
> This is also Lasso 9.
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RE: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

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==> So Knop is the real Swiss Army Knife here. ;)

... maybe Knop is the Swedish Army Knife


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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Jolle Carlestam-3
30 aug 2011 kl. 10.26 skrev Rick Draper:

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> ==> So Knop is the real Swiss Army Knife here. ;)
>
> ... maybe Knop is the Swedish Army Knife

That's right. Knives are considered too dangerous for the Swedish Army so instead each soldier is equipped with a piece or rope. If an enemy shows up we're supposed to stun them by making fabulous rope tricks.

(To understand why this is funny: Knop (Swedish) = Knot (English))

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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Jolle Carlestam-3
30 aug 2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Jolle Carlestam:

> That's right. Knives are considered too dangerous for the Swedish Army so instead each soldier is equipped with a piece or rope. If an enemy shows up we're supposed to stun them by making fabulous rope tricks.

Is almost true.
This however is truly true.
When the German armed forces invaded Denmark and Norway during WWII, Swedish army was scrambled and deployed alongside the south west coast line.
Due to material shortage each soldier was equipped with a rifle from second half of 1900 century. Would be ok, it was working rifles that was accurate to shoot with. Major problem was that they came with only three bullets for every soldier.
Ongoing joke at the time; if the Germans invade, shoot cross-fire...

Embarrassing but true, what saved Sweden at the time was that Germany considered Sweden so friendly it was unnecessary to invade...

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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

Johan Solve
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Swiss, Swedish, same same.

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Re: Lasso as Swiss Army Knife

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Way back in the Lasso 2.5 era I used the lasso appleevents tag (anyone remember that?) to build a system that connected Lasso, filemaker, quark express, photoshop, toast,  and Macromedia (at the time) Director to create an automated cd production system - you entered a name and sales information in an online form and it created a customized cd presentation in director burned onto cd in one step. It was pretty cool to see - the text from lasso/filemaker was drawn into quark and laid out, the page was exported to photoshop, which downsampled and passed it to Director which then used it as a customized boot screen and content pages. This then was passed to toast which burned the cd. All the while it talked in apple text to speech telling you what it was doing.

Years later I created a similar system that takes lasso/mysql data and works with Quark and applescript to create a ship-on-demand customized stationary system for corporate use in Lasso 8.5, I'm currently in talks to port this to 9 as well.

Peter



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> 30 aug 2011 kl. 06.08 skrev Jolle Carlestam:
>
>> 29 aug 2011 kl. 03.14 skrev Sean Stephens:
>>
>>> Another question I have: when do you use Lasso when you are NOT using it to present web pages and applications through the server to users? Apart from the classic website build, Lasso can do so much more, yet we rarely talk about it.
>>
>> We use Lasso 9 for building knop code pages.
>
> Come to think of it we have more knop related functions that Lasso help us deal with. Lasso also aids in handling language strings. Instead of editing maps in a lasso code page we have a Knop based list/form section for that. Add a language string in the relevant languages and several things will happen. It will of course add records to the globally accessible language table for each language the string is submitted in. But also recreate the language object used in the site. And save a fallback file with all language snippets in case the language table should be unavailable, for example in off-site sites.
> Makes editing and adding of language snippets a breeze compared to when it was manual editing on maps.
>
> This is also Lasso 9.
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